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‘We have just shot down a plane’

Intercepted phone calls purportedly between Russian military intelligence officers and members of a pro-Russian separatist group that appear to capture the moment the rebels realized the plane they shot down was a civilian passenger plane could be the smoking gun that helps prove Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was downed over Ukraine by the insurgents.

The tapes were released by SBU, Ukraine’s security agency, and a transcript was published in the Kiev Post. It appears to capture the chaotic moments after the plane was shot down — and the realization that it was a passenger plane rather than a Ukrainian transport plane, which had been targeted in recent days by the Russia-backed separatists.

“We have just shot down a plane,” says a man the SBU identified as Igor Bezler, a Russian military intelligence officer and leading commander of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic.

That call came just 20 minutes after the crash and was placed to a person identified by Ukraine’s SBU as a colonel in the main intelligence department of the general headquarters of the armed forces of the Russian Federation, Vasili Geranin, according to Ukraine security officials.

But in a second tape released by the agency, two men identified as “The Greek” and “Major” discuss the debris field and the fact that the plane was a civilian aircraft.

“It’s 100 percent a passenger [civilian] aircraft,” Major is recorded as saying, as he admitted to seeing no weapons on site. “Absolutely nothing. Civilian items, medicinal stuff, towels, toilet paper.”

The Boeing 777 was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur when it was shot down by what US intelligence sources confirm was a surface-to-air missile near the village of Chornukhine, Luhansk Oblast, some 30 miles inside the border with Russia.

The second conversation, if verified as authentic, could dispel Russian separatist claims that it was the Ukrainian military that shot the plane down. According to the transpcript:

Major: “These are Chernukhin folks who shot down the plane. From the Chernukhin check point. Those cossacks who are based in Chernukhino.”

Greek: “Yes, Major.”

Major: “The plane fell apart in the air. In the area of Petropavlovskaya mine. The first ‘200.’ We have found the first ‘200.’ A Civilian.”

Greek: “Well, what do you have there?”

Major: “In short, it was 100 percent a passenger [civilian] aircraft.”

Greek: “Are many people there?”

Major: “Holy [expletive]! The debris fell right into the yards [of homes].”

In a third intercepted conversation released by the SBU — which the agency says took place about 40 minutes after insurgents seemed to realize they had shot down a civilian plane — Cossack commander Nikolay Kozitsin tells an unidentified separatist that the fact the Malaysia Airlines plane was flying over the combat zone likely meant it was carrying spies.

“That means they were carrying spies,” Kozitsin allegedly says. “They shouldn’t be [expletive] flying. There is a war going on.”

With Associated Press